Comments on: Welcome to the Carpet Work Facilitator’s Club!

By: Harry

Harry — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:58:32 +0000

One idea I’ve been exploring recently is the dialectic between struggle and surrender. It’s one of life’s greatest challenge to know which is appropriate. When I’m out of whack, I surrender where I ought to struggle, and I struggle where I ought to surrender. My sense of the warrior wound is that it comes from betrayal — I submitted to untrustworthy authority, so either I give up on my own discernment and am everyone’s bitch, or I give up on my own discernment and am everyone’s enemy.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:13:00 +0000

As Edmond said, once authority is decerned to be healthy, kind of like the authority of a good Father or Mother, ascent to this person provides strength and clarity, order and direction. A coach embodies this authority figure the best for me, I was lucky enough to have wise and caring coaches growing up…for the most part. But, what happens when we are treated with something less than unconditional love and recklessness, we may begin distrusting anyone that symbolizes authority…especially the ultimate authority or author – God.

Trusting an authority, when I became a big warriors, enough to surrender my control is in my experience totally liberating. For me, this authority promised unconditional love, forgiveness, and new life…I accepted,! But without submitting or cooperating to this authority daily, the rebel warrior in me trades down these promises and remains in a rebel without a cause.

Thanks,

Jeremy

By: Dmitri

Dmitri — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:32:25 +0000

Hi Anne — I’m Christian, so I’ll check out the book. I think it’s natural, on a genetic level, for human beings to look ‘up’ to something Greater, and it’s well worth exploring.

By: Anne - Victorious Compassionate Lioness

Anne - Victorious Compassionate Lioness — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:48:49 +0000

There’s a book entitled “Culture of Honor” by Danny Silk. He’s in Redding, California @ Bethel Church. The Contents of the book is possibly counter culture, and is not politically correct, but it might address “authority” / a higher power’s authority. If one wants to view the warrior wound in the Christian realm, with the assumption that one has a personal relationship with Christ, then some authority challenges might be answered as you dig into the book. No. It’s not religiosity that I’m suggesting. Read it for yourself and see if any of it resonates, or can be combined with Carpet work.

By: Dmitri

Dmitri — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:49:41 +0000

Hi Steve–
I hope that the Warrior Weekend is conducted in such a way that men receive guidance during carpet work, but that their ability to make their own decisions about what they do is always respected.

But there IS something about being willing to risk, being willing to trust, and being willing to go outside of your comfort zone. That IS where miracles often happen. I would hope that, in the Warriors, men might DECIDE to let themselves try something new, with the full awareness that they can change their mind at any time. A

By: Steve Norcross

Steve Norcross — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:45:00 +0000

Dimitri, certainly one place where authority becomes an issue is on the New Warrior Training Adventure, especially when the initiate is invited to step out onto the carpet and essentially turn his life over to the staff assigned to his process. Those who resist this most strongly, and are willing to let go “just this once” are the ones whose guts work are often the most profound.

By: Dmitri

Dmitri — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:39:04 +0000

Great point David! – Dmitri

By: David Kelm

David Kelm — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:55:58 +0000

Dmitri,
It is always refreshing to read your thoughts. The term ‘authority’ for me carries some judgement conotations. But when I dropped the “ity” part and consudered it as the author or source of unconditional love, I can more easly accept the now as a gift of everything I need and begin releasing the working for and expecting everything I want.
Thanks again,
David

By: Dmitri

Dmitri — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:45:24 +0000

Hi Edmond,

Welcome, I’m glad you are here.

These are GREAT questions…. Basically, I’m summing them up with, “Okay, I agree this is a wound. How do we work it?”

I don’t have a great answer for that yet. It came about spontaneously in processes for me. I’d step into my Higher Power’s point of view on my issues with not being married, and it just came out, with clarity and force.

The feeling was similar to how I felt at some points when I did the New Warrior Weekend: “This harshness should feel bad, but actually it feels like it’s feeding me something I need.”

Perhaps that’s how you tell if it’s “right”: It FEELS right. The warrior-wound-busting voice I got wasn’t saying “Get used to the fact that you can never have what you want, loser.” It was saying “I can give you something beyond your wildest dreams, but not if you don’t sit down and shut up and LISTEN for once.” And it said that with the kind of POWER that the Warrior would understand and respect.

Big difference.

I’m still not sure the best way to give this experience to someone who needs it on the carpet, but doesn’t KNOW they need it. That’s a place for exploration.

I do know that many people who are attracted to this kind of personal work have been wounded by the idea of higher authority, and need this help. Let’s see what we can discover together.

Dmitri

By: Edmond

Edmond — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:33:02 +0000

Hi Dmitri,

I LOVED the discussion of the warrior’s identity wound and how it might center around “how do I deny the authority of any power greater than myself.” I also loved the comment ‘Those of us who do this work might have this wound in spades.’ hahahaha…

*bashfully raising my hand.*

I am very interested to hear how you can take identifying this wound to a new place with carpet work. Questions that come up for me:

* Once you recognize this wound as a self-truth, then what? How do you learn how to submit? How do you “just” give up control?

* How does a person discern between an authority worth submitting to (higher power) and a false authority (work, bad relationship, the ‘rules’ of the world, etc.). Seems to me that discernment makes all the difference in whether you submit in “a good way.”

* What would a ritual/process look like to help someone submit? What might that be on the carpet?

I don’t expect you to answer all these questions in this Comments section, though I have enjoyed reading your responses to others. But I wanted to contribute to the ongoing conversation. Maybe these will be topics for future videos!

Thanks for inviting me. I’m glad I’m here.

Edmond